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UFO’s Strangers In The Night: the live album that nearly restarted World War 2

On the road in 1978, UFO’s Phil Mogg and Michael Schenker were busy recreating World War 2. Yet they still managed to make one of the greatest live albums ever – Strangers In The Night

“Listen to the album. There are some wrong notes on that song. I hate mistakes.” More than 30 years after the event, Michael Schenker still recalls the straw that broke the camel’s back and prompted his exit from UFO. The year was 1978, and the band were holed up in New York’s Record Plant studios, mixing their double live album Strangers In The Night .

Tensions had been building within the band for years. Personality clashes between the loose-cannon German guitarist and his equally wayward British colleagues had already seen Schenker warn the rest of UFO that he would leave the band after the tour for 1978’s Obsession album. But no one expected his departure to be quite so sudden.

Schenker had been at loggerheads with producer Ron Nevison over which version of his showcase song Rock Bottom to use on the live album. The guitarist was unhappy with the producer’s choice of take, and insisted that he either change it or let him overdub it. Nevison refused.

“Michael’s entitled to believe that there were better takes of Rock Bottom that might have been used,” Nevison tells Classic Rock , “but a guy like Michael Schenker is only listening for Michael Schenker. As producer I listen to the bigger picture. Michael was never what you’d call a ‘band guy’.”

For singer Phil Mogg, this studio flashpoint provided a moment of unintentional comedy. “I can still see Michael, who was becoming more and more distanced from the band, going out of the studio mumbling: ‘Poor, poor Rock Bottom ’,” Mogg recalls with a smirk. “And that was the last we saw of him.”

Chaos has always reigned supreme in the world of UFO, but never more than in the late 70s. The combustible mix of five flamboyant, eccentric personalities – Mogg and Schenker plus bassist Pete Way, guitarist/keyboard player Paul Raymond and drummer Andy Parker – combined with various alcohol and drug-fuelled excesses, was a sure-fire recipe for the worst kind of pandemonium.

Schenker had left his original band, Scorpions, to join UFO in 1973 when he was just 18 years old. Tensions between the German guitarist and his British bandmates were apparent early on, with Schenker and Mogg enjoying a particularly fractious relationship. At times it seemed like the pair were intent on re-enacting World War 2 on a daily basis.

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“I always said that I would quit the band if Phil Mogg hit me,” Michael recalls. Inevitably, a physical altercation did eventually ensue – though neither party is clear as to where, or even when, it occurred. “The fight with Phil might have happened in Germany – maybe Strangers In The Night had already been recorded,” says Schenker. According to Mogg the fracas happened years previously, possibly as early as 1974’s Phenomenon album. “There were often times when I wanted to belt Michael,” says the singer.

Such was the bad blood, Schenker had even quit the band once before, around 1977’s Lights Out , only to be talked out of his decision by bassist Pete Way.

Despite all this, by 1978 UFO were on the verge of their big breakthrough. Obsession had added a new-found maturity to their powerful hard rock thunder in the shape of the strings-assisted Looking Out For Number One and Born To Lose , and the album had followed Lights Out into the US Top 50. The time was right for the band to record a live double album. And, unlike Kiss, whose Alive! LP, had been the ultimate shit-or-bust statement, UFO’s live album would capture a band already well on their way to stardom. Strangely, though, not everyone concerned was convinced by the idea.

“I didn’t even want to make a live album,” admits Mogg. “At that point the band was so up and down, depending on who’d been doing what. Wine, women and song was our priority, in that order. Suppose they recorded a dodgy night?”

Drummer Andy Parker agrees that the partying – not to mention the bust-ups – affected the band’s performances. “The intake was astonishing,” he says. “We’d have different types of booze for times of the day, for Christ’s sake. There’d be white wine for the sound check – nothing too heavy – and it would build from there during the gig and afterwards. You’d be up till four in the morning, then get up and do it all over again.”

Schenker insists that he was always in control on stage, though what happened afterwards “is another thing completely”. As well as his extra-curricular activities, Schenker’s problems were compounded by the fact that he suffered from crippling stage fright. To combat this he was taking the same anti-depressants that would kill The Who drummer Keith Moon just a few months later. “It was a very, very bad time for me,” Schenker recalls. “I stopped taking those tablets after Strangers In The Night .”

Phil Mogg is less sympathetic. “The pills made Michael’s face go red as a beetroot,” he says. “You weren’t supposed to take them with alcohol. But back then everybody knew their own personal limits.”

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The songs that would appear on Strangers In The Night were recorded on the US leg of the Obsession tour in Autumn 1978. To minimise potential disaster, the band’s label, Chrysalis, hired the Record Plant’s remote unit and dispatched Ron Nevison – who had produced UFO’s previous two albums – to record six shows on the tour. Despite gravel-voiced stage manager Steve Brooks’s opening rallying cry of: “Hello, Chicago. Would you please welcome, from England… U!… F!… O!”, the album was eventually pieced together like an audio patchwork quilt.

“There are some things about that record that Mike Clink [who co-manned the mobile truck and would go on to produce Guns N’ Roses’ Appetite For Destruction ] and I still can’t remember,” admits Nevison. “I don’t even recall recording the show in Louisville, Kentucky, but apparently we did so. And then, of course, there’s also some conjecture over the amount of ‘fixing’ that was done.”

The post-production ‘fixing’ he’s referring to has been the subject of much debate over the years. A name-check for Schenker’s eventual replacement in UFO, former Lone Star guitarist Paul ‘Tonka’ Chapman, on the sleeve of Strangers In The Night prompted rumours that Chapman had touched up some of Schenker’s guitar parts in the studio following Michael’s departure from the band. For once, though, on this both Michael Schenker and Ron Nevison are in agreement.

“No bloody way,” says the guitarist. “If that were true you’d be able to hear it.”

“I’ve never even met Paul Chapman,” Nevison says. “No, no. That’s complete bullshit.”

However, certain ‘fixes’ were made. In order to accommodate four sides of vinyl, Nevison was forced to rearrange the running order of the set as it had been played. Two of the songs that appear on the album – Mother Mary and This Kid’s – were also re-recorded in the studio afterwards and overdubbed with crowd noise from the tour.

“Some people will say: ‘Oh, then it’s not a real live album,’” says Andy Parker. “But we set up the gear like we’d have done at a gig and played the damned songs. It really was as live as you could get.”

One thing that no one disagrees with is that the album’s distinctive title was proposed by its producer, Nevison. There is, though, still some disagreement over the identity of the open-mouthed fan pictured on the front cover. According to some, the colourful face is that of the band’s long-time publicist, Joe O’Neil (who died in 2008).

“Are you sure?” says Mogg. “I always thought it was Peter Curzon from [sleeve designers] Hipgnosis.” If the devil is in the detail, UFO are positively angelic.

Despite all the chaos surrounding Strangers In The Night the album would give UFO their biggest ever hit, reaching No.8 in the UK chart and No.42 in the US. In 2009, the album was reissued with the as-performed running order restored, and with two additional tracks in the shape of Hot ’N’ Ready and Cherry . That reissue also exhumed some of Mogg’s previously unheard stage patter. “We’re getting a bit confused up here; it’s your licensing laws,” the singer tells the crowd at one point. “We’ve just taken a vote, and apparently this is something called Natural Thing .”

These days, UFO are still very much a going concern, with Mogg, Parker and Paul Raymond still in the line-up. The guitarist himself talked about putting together a band called Strangers In The Night with UFO bassist Pete Way and former Scorpions drummer Herman Rarebell to perform songs from the album of the same name, along with other choice material from his career. That idea has since been mothballed, but at least Schenker seems to have got over the stage fright that plagued him for so long. “Isn’t it funny? I’ve developed an extreme liking for being on stage,” he says.

More than 30 years on, a surprisingly large number of musicians have spent time as a member of UFO, but it says much about Strangers In The Night to note that many of the songs on that album are still in the band’s live set.

“ Strangers is our best album, and I’m blown away that it’s still considered important,” says Andy Parker today. “We made some great studio albums, but to understand UFO you always had to see us live. It remains the epitome of what we’re about.”

“It has a lot of vigour and strut,” adds Phil Mogg. “As a doubting Thomas that hadn’t wanted to do it, I was very, very wrong.”

Nevison himself adds: “Everybody agrees that Strangers In The Night is one of the best live albums ever, so I didn’t do such a bad job. Whatever complaints Michael Schenker might have, he can stuff them.”

After all these years, even Schenker himself has learned to live with what he calls the album’s “mistakes”. “Those notes might have been wrong,” he concedes, “but they became classic wrong notes.”

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UFO, formed in London, UK in 1969 were on the frontline of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal. They have released twenty studio albums since 1970 and have been cited as an influence by Metallica, Pearl Jam, Megadeth and Iron Maiden.

UFO hit their stride when they drafted in eighteen-year-old Michael Schenker to be their lead guitarist in 1973. They released three albums before their huge breakthrough in 1977 with the album “Lights Out”, which made it to number 23 in the Billboard 200 Chart and number 54 in the UK being certified Gold. It featured the singles “Too Hot to Handle” and “Alone Again Or”. The album has since been listed in the Kerrang! Magazine, as number 28 of the ‘100 Greatest Heavy Metal Albums of All Time’. Their following album, “Obsession” released in June 1978, earned similar success, but was unfortunately the last album that would feature Michael Schenker. It made it to number 41 in the Billboard 200, and number 26 in the UK.

UFO’s eighth album, released in January 1980 entitled “No Place to Run” pushed the band up the chart further, earning them their highest charting album in the UK making it to the number 11 spot, being certified Silver. Unfortunately, they weren’t maintaining the same chart success in the US. February 1982 saw the band release their tenth studio album entitled “Mechanix”, which became UFO’s highest charting album in the UK making it to number 8. Following “Mechanix”, UFO achieved two more charting albums above the number 80 mark, with “Making Contact” and “Misdemeanor” making it to number 32 and number 74 in the UK Albums Chart. Their following album to chart was “The Visitor” in 2009 making it to number 99, and “Seven Deadly” released on February 27th 2012, which marked UFO’s 20th studio album release.

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Hi. Well, the band delivered an incredibly good show. With Phil Mogg showing a great and definitely subtle British sense of humour. Maybe my best UFO show : saw them in 1983 making contact tour then 1997 walk on water. Probably the best of all three of them. Was it the venue was a small place packed with long time (a lot of white hair or bald). Many not looking "2015 young metal scene, but old die hard fans instead". The blokes kindly accepted to sign autographs take pictures. Real big rock stars for me behaving like they were newbies playing in club for their fans. The British touch of class. Phil's voice still awesome and emotional, Andy pounding his drums from the bottom of the heart, Paul as usual delivering his sense of melody we don't have to say more about. And the youngster bloke on the bass up to the challenge to be in Pete Way's boots. I hope he is healthy by the way. UFO is still just of piece of magic and represents for me elegance in hard rock. Thanks so much god bless you all guys you made my day. You'll be forever in my heart as the magic of music is at stake. And to finish with I spread the virus to my sons. Take good care guys. Come back any time I will be there except I'm dead. Cheers. Brice (from Lyon)

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Saxon was great. Biff Byford still has his chops. In my opinion U.f.O. should have opened for Saxon. Saxon rocked the house. I have seen U.F.O. 3 times now and it seems every time I see them they grow more and more stale. There are plenty of songs that they can play and they always seems to choose to play the same more popular songs but never any songs off of the wild willing and innocent album which in my opinion was one of there last great albums. With only 2 original memebers I think it's time to hang it up. The only reason I went to this show was because I wanted to see Saxon which I hadn't seen since 1982 and they still rock. It seemed to me that the lead singer for U.F.O. almost needed a Cain or a walker after the 1st song. There musicianship was great, but there show was old, stale and when they did play the hits, there played the song alot slower then they did in the past..... so sad to see such a great band grow old. I love U.F.O. But it was painful seeing them in this state. I wish them well in the future although based on last night's performance, I don't think they will be around much longer.

First of all we were suitably warmed up by Russian rockers Redscool whose enthusiasm and 80s stadium style rock raised many claps and cheers.

This was my 5th outing to see UFO and was very welcoming to see the opening salvo of We belong to the night and Aint no baby going down a treat. Having been sceptical about Vinnie Moore in the past I felt he was red hot tonight putting his own stamp on the Schenker solos and crunching his own era tracks Fight night, Run boy run and Messiah of love, Phils banter with the crowd was great and even Paul Raymonds equipment changes couldnt stop the momentum.

Rob De Luca has morphed nicely into the bass slot taking centre stage for the intro to Cherry with the colossus that is drummer Andy Parker providing a solid foundation the whole night.

There were many happy faces leaving the Queens Hall having seen a great band perform great classics, just a shame they aren't playing bigger halls where they deserve to be.

U.F.O have been a band for a very long time now. They were at the forefront of a movement dubbed the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, and maintained their career that has been going for a total of four decades almost. Complete with Michael Schenker’s guitar, which is one of the band’s secret weapons with his signature sound and style of playing complete with his Jason Bonham depping on drums, they really do have their lasers set to stun this evening. They perform a variety of their singles that have shaken the metal world throughout their career including the song “Lights Out”, a huge track from the band that gives this horde of metal loving punters exactly what they ordered. “No Place to Run” is another song that gets this audience a little bit rowdy throughout, with its famous guitar riffs and huge melody lines, fantastically executed by front man, Phil Mogg. Well worth the watch for a metal band time machine

Dean and i had a great time, as we always will seeing a great band as UFO.Still amazed how Mogg has not changed that much over the years.Sound was not perfect buy how many times when you go to a gig it is.going to explore Vinne c/d i am sure its going to be good.As the rest of the band were just as good as well.did not see stars t/shirt for sale saw UFO at Exeter when the stars tour started just as good as last night.

Also saw before at the Cheese & grain about 5/6 years ago they where brillant then how the venue has changed for the good.As have a blue badge found parking very easy.We were talking about the gig on the way home loved the evening never mind the rain who cares anyway the band was the main thing JW GRASSE PAIGNTON

I really do hope this is not the last tour for UFO....the concert was great I wish would never end...two of my favorite songs Baby Blue and Love To Love were in the set plus many other of the Bands hits..they're playing at the Avalon I want to go to that show also to see them again it was that great of a night of great music.let's not let this be LIGHTS OUT LIGHTS IN LONDON !!! For a great band ..I have to also say Armored Saint was excellent in its own right hell yeah what a night of rocking out.. yelling until I lost my voice..like I said I do hope this is not the last time I will be able to see UFO...Armored Saint i will be waiting for another show because i will be there for you..

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La première partie était assurée par Sabotage, un groupe local qui nous a servi un excellent concert d'une musique inspirée par les grands des années 70 (Deep Purple et Led Zepplin notament) de bonne facture.

La concert de U.F.O. était excellent, le groupe, malgré son age était en forme, les titres se sont enchaînés entre deux trois blagounettes du chanteur, le goupe prenaît plair a jouer.

Mention spéciale pour Rock Bottom, chanson la plus connue du groupe, ponctué d'un solo improvisé de qualité .

Bref, un très bon moment

Excellent show! The first few songs had some mixing board problems but by the 3rd song the band was dialed in and sounding great. Phil still brings with his vocals and stage personality. Vinnie is an excellent guitarest that will not disappoint. He had some great solos o. Love to love and Rock Bottom. Neil played great rythm guitar and key boards too. Check the set list out they really added some material to the set they don't always play which was nice to hear. Armored Saint was a nice treat to open the show as well. Great show!

Saw UFO in Bristol Workington and York last year and they were superb every time. They played it for real and their new music adds a freshness to their live show so it's not a greatest hits set. Every member of the band is excellent and Phil was on top form. Vinnie excels whether he's playing schenker chapman or his own songs , Paul Raymond is so talented vocals keys and rhythm guitar, rob is great on bass and vocals and Andy just awesome holding it all together - go witness the best rock band stil treading the boards.

This was an amazing concert. The band has been playing for over 40 years and Phil's voice has not changed. Vinnie was amazing on guitar and they played all the great hits along with songs from recent recordings that sound awesome. I was glad I finally got to see this band even without Michael Schenker on guitar, they were incredible. I feel Vinnie is as good of a guitar player as Michael is. Show gets 5 stars from me. One of the best Metal Bands ever, I can see why they are Eddie Trunk's favorite.

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