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Discussion in ' Long Travel Suspension ' started by bulldogs123 , Jul 15, 2009 .
What are the pros and cons of a long travel kit or a suspension lift(looking at a 6inch)? I like to go off roading alot. There are trails that I like to go down with hills and it's fairly rough terrain at certain spots. The fields get real muddy after a rain. I'm looking for something that will perform awesome offroad and be a good daily driver too. I will be getting a 2009 taco 4x4. I was looking at the camburg long travel kit with the arb deluxe brush bar bumper. I'm pretty in familiar with the long travel kit. Does it lift the truck any and what size tires would clear? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Shawn
I can't really help you other than to say with the camburg kit, you'll need fiberglass fenders to clear the tires (me thinks 35s, but could be wrong)... Allpro LT kit lets you keep stock fenders...
Well if you're deciding between a DB 6" lift or the LT kit? No comparison! Take the LT kit! My vote will be for All Pro! DB is decent for offroading, but nowhere near the LT kit. From good to best! -3" lift (limited down travel after lift) -6" DB lift (Just a little better than a 3" lift because you keep 100% of the suspension articulation) -LT kit (Increased articulation, but much wider front wheel base (Maybe an issue for a daily driver) -SAC (Sky's the limit)
what is an SAC?
Solid Axel Conversion.
I'd go long travel for serious offroading. The DB lifts are okay for offroad, but are more for looks and to be able to fit larger tires, whereas the LT kits are all about suspension performance. The increased articulation you get out of a LT setup and increased ground clearance will dominate any 6" lift. Oh, and yes, 35's fit with a little trimming on the Longtravel. I'd vote allpro for the longtravel from what I've seen of their new kit.
if you do trails like i do, and if you are thinking about a LT kit...seriously take consideration into the All-Pro Long Travel Kit.. i have it and all i can say is my truck is now in a class of it's own. it's only 2" wider on each side so you wont have to have fiberglass finders, and it's not too wide for the tight trails...this kit handles great so far, the steering great...on my first run on it throught the desert i got confident enough with the kit i was pulling 4wheel drifts coming out of turns like it was nothing..total control Dukes of Hazard style haha..and, i could go as fast as i dared to while not bouncing all over the place... on the trail it's even better...like a mini SAC haha...the amount of up and down travel is insane and the articulation is crazy...a good example on how it did on the first trail run this past sunday...my buddy with his FJ on 35's with his front/rear locker engaged was having some trouble getting up and over some rocks..took him some work and lining up several times but he eventualy struggled over them...when i came up using his same exact line i made it up and over the first time like it was nothing..reason being, the way the front was articulating kept the wheels on the ground for traction..no 3wheeled stands like my buddies FJ..of course i had my rear locker engaged but still.. here's some teaser pics of the kit...pics taking by http://www.SiRMarlon.com these pics taking sunday at cleghorn..only 2 cuz everybody is lazy to get em uploaded haha...taking by BillDozer (TTORA) making the easy line hard..just testing on how stable the new track width is haha and...look at all that ground clearance
I would say go with the Camburg Long Travel setup. FTW!!!!!!!!
^...haha, great generalized answer...care to elaberate some more
MonkeyProof said: ↑ if you do trails like i do, and if you are thinking about a LT kit...seriously take consideration into the All-Pro Long Travel Kit.. i have it and all i can say is my truck is now in a class of it's own. it's only 2" wider on each side so you wont have to have fiberglass finders, and it's not too wide for the tight trails...this kit handles great so far, the steering great...on my first run on it throught the desert i got confident enough with the kit i was pulling 4wheel drifts coming out of turns like it was nothing..total control Dukes of Hazard style haha..and, i could go as fast as i dared to while not bouncing all over the place... on the trail it's even better...like a mini SAC haha...the amount of up and down travel is insane and the articulation is crazy...a good example on how it did on the first trail run this past sunday...my buddy with his FJ on 35's with his front/rear locker engaged was having some trouble getting up and over some rocks..took him some work and lining up several times but he eventualy struggled over them...when i came up using his same exact line i made it up and over the first time like it was nothing..reason being, the way the front was articulating kept the wheels on the ground for traction..no 3wheeled stands like my buddies FJ..of course i had my rear locker engaged but still.. here's some teaser pics of the kit...pics taking by http://www.SiRMarlon.com these pics taking sunday at cleghorn..only 2 cuz everybody is lazy to get em uploaded haha...taking by BillDozer (TTORA) making the easy line hard..just testing on how stable the new track width is haha and...look at all that ground clearance Click to expand...
bulldogs123 [OP] initial post: ↑ What are the pros and cons of a long travel kit or a suspension lift(looking at a 6inch)? I like to go off roading alot. There are trails that I like to go down with hills and it's fairly rough terrain at certain spots. The fields get real muddy after a rain. I'm looking for something that will perform awesome offroad and be a good daily driver too. I will be getting a 2009 taco 4x4. I was looking at the camburg long travel kit with the arb deluxe brush bar bumper. I'm pretty in familiar with the long travel kit. Does it lift the truck any and what size tires would clear? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Shawn Click to expand...
MonkeyProof said: ↑ ^...haha, great generalized answer...care to elaberate some more Click to expand...
not to bench race here...but it "seems" that the allpro LT kit is aimed for the rock/trail enthusiast and the camburg /TC LT kits are aimed towards desert running. I also couldn't find how much travel you gain with the allpro LT kit on their page. Camburg and TC both have the travel listed and looks like a little more track width. MP def came up on this deal. Congrats man! looks good.
imsikotic said: ↑ Calm down turbo. I'm not knockin All-Pro at all. No need to be defensive. I actually like their stuff. And I love your truck. Just my preference is for Camburg . That is the setup I am getting in the near future. I'm also into prerunning and it looks like you are into that and crawling. I want the extra width and travel. I want to run glass fenders and bedsides. Plus I know their work, I like the company and I get a discount. Click to expand...
toku58 said: ↑ From good to best! -3" lift (limited down travel after lift) -6" DB lift (Just a little better than a 3" lift because you keep 100% of the suspension articulation) -LT kit (Increased articulation, but much wider front wheel base (Maybe an issue for a daily driver) -SAC (Sky's the limit) Click to expand...
I agree with you MonkeyProof, most of these companies got some good shit. BeachBoy. You forgot 4-link in the rear for crawlers and prerunners.
jonnysrt2004 said: ↑ not to bench race here...but it "seems" that the allpro LT kit is aimed for the rock/trail enthusiast and the camburg /TC LT kits are aimed towards desert running. I also couldn't find how much travel you gain with the allpro LT kit on their page. Camburg and TC both have the travel listed and looks like a little more track width. MP def came up on this deal. Congrats man! looks good. Click to expand...
nice vid!! The blue DMZ trucks seems to have the better setup, or is it an illusion? I am looking at the trucks bouncing and it seems the blue one bounces the least.
i would watch the vid if the damn internet over here in Iraq didnt suck so bad.
Hello everyone... I have owned a stock 2010 rzr 800 for a few years now. I have bassically rode the crap out of it. It was recently submerged in a swap almost to the top of the roll cage and the engine is drowned. With that being said it is now in the garage and being tore apart. I figured while i am here i may as well do some upgrades. SO my question is should i go with a long travel suspension or a lift kit? I am looking at the super ATV rzr to rzr s conversion or their new 6 in lift kit. I mainly tool around trails on my property on the weekends and the occasional swamp ride to try to make it through.....hence the swamped out rzr. Any suggestions are welcome... thanks
My profile picture shows mine on the right. Its a 2010 RZR800 Walker Evans.
Thanks and to be honest i am not sure why that big of a lift would be good either. i just saw it today on their website and went hmmmm that looks neat.
Mine sits nice and stout with this setup. I did the +1.5 offset on the conversion kit by the way. Gives me a 3" longer wheelbase.
Awesome are you running your stock shocks and springs or did you get the kit with the phantoms? My shocks and springs are junk i can sit on the front of my rzr and almost bottom it out. (and i am about 170lbs)
If you have any questions or would like a quote don't hesitate to send me a PM and I'll get you hooked up with a great deal on anything you need.
See SuperATV is on top of it. :rofl3::rofl3::rofl3: You guys rock!!! No I ended up running a new set of Walker Evans shocks because I have a WE LE RZR and wanted it to stay true to that. I'm hearing the Phantom setup is real nice for the price. If you like mud like it sounds like you do, buy the +1.5 offset kit because it will give you extra room for bigger tires later on.
One other thing, buy the complete axels. That way you don't have to mess with the CV mess.
At 4.5” wider per side and 1” forward for extra firewall clearance, this kit allows up to 15” of useable wheel travel. Weak upper balljoints are replaced by 1” FK uniballs, and stock rubber bushings are replaced by durable polyurethane or optional heims for alignment adjustability.
For 4WD kits, we build custom CV axles with heat treated 300m axle shafts and machined / rebuilt / rebooted OEM CV joints for added articulation and strength. Axles come completely assembled and ready to bolt on.
Kit includes: boxed upper and lower control arms with Energy poly bushings, tie rod extensions, extended steel braided brake lines (replaces hard and soft sections of stock lines), spindle to upper uniball adapters, and custom coilover top brackets. Arms come raw or powdercoated gunmetal grey. Adjustable upper arms equipped with FK heims available as an option.
*Custom coilovers can be added to your order, message or email us for details!*
Rock crawling, trail running or prerunning a race course, this suspension does it all!
Fits 6 lug trucks only!
8-12 week lead time, depending on options, order volume and availability of materials. Built to order, all sales final.
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OVERVIEW: SVC Offroad's 2017+ Ford Raptor Gen 2 Mid Travel Kit offers you long travel performance without the headaches of going full long travel. We've taken what we liked about our dual shock LCA setup and upped the ante to provide Raptor owners a bolt on kit that allows superior damping control, additional ride height and ground clearance without sacrificing one bit of daily driver duties.
We've designed our Mid Travel Kit using the latest in C.A.D. technology to ensure the absolute best suspension geometry possible and coupled it with thousands of miles real-world testing to dial in shock valving and proper springs rates. We're 100% confident we have developed a kit that is unparalleled in performance, at a price that is hundreds, if not thousands less than other kits on the market.
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Lift kits also allow for larger tires, increasing traction in certain conditions, such as mud or snow. 2. Performance: Long travel suspensions offer superior performance when compared to lift kits due to their increased damping compression control and ability to adjust ride height, damping and spring rates according to personal preferences or terrain conditions encountered while off-roading.
Most mid travel systems for this platform will net around 10 inches of suspension travel with just an aftermarket UCA and coilover. Most long travel systems for this platform will net 13 inches or more of suspension travel. And depending on the components, some can attain as much as 18 inches of travel, all while retaining four wheel drive.
5. LSK (+4.5″) LSK makes a couple of monster long travel kits; a race kit for 2wd Tacomas pushing almost 16″ of travel, a spindle bolt-on kit for 2wd trucks pushing 14″ of travel, and a kit for 4wd rigs also pushing 14″ of wheel travel.
Let's talk Long Travel Suspension. Suspension is the separation and connection to the ground below us, and (like most things overlanding) can be upgraded. These upgrades provide more lift and more ground clearance, and give us more adjustability and comfortability on the road and trail. Suspension upgrades run the gamut of simple spacer lifts ...
Both Expedition and Race Series kits offer 3″-4″ of vehicle lift with adjustable long travel specific coilovers. +2″ Expedition Series kits will cycle about 11.5″ of wheel travel while the wider +3.5″ Race Series will cycle about 12.5″. ... Stock width extended travel shocks do not work with a long travel kit. All TC lower control ...
This video goes over the differences between our three different types of front suspension systems; mid travel kit, long travel kit, and long travel race kit...
Mid-travel setups are far more accessible than their long-travel counterparts…. On the other end, long travel setups are far more involved as you're looking at aftermarket upper AND lower uni-ball control arms, an extended axle shaft, tie rod extension, coilovers with reservoir, and strategic weld-in reinforcements in the way of braces ...
The extra width from a long travel kit is almost like upgrading to a whole new side-by-side. You get more stability, more travel, and room for bigger tires. The stability is easy to understand: being 6 to 12 inches wider makes it harder to tip over. And when your machine is harder to tip over you can ride faster and turn harder.
The wider track also gives the 4Runner a better stance and stability off-road as well. And lastly, you can't forget about that look! 3. AB Castro ( @Dj_ayybeats) - 2005 SR5 2WD. Long Travel Suspension Details. Front: Dirt King 3.5+ Long Travel Kit. Dirt King Upper Arm Sheer Kit. Dirt King Bypass Shock Hoop Kit.
A long travel kit is a complete suspension replacement. It comes with everything you need to make your off-road vehicle wider, stronger, and more stable than stock. Long travel kits are designed to dampen the effects of rough riding. The extra width provides stability and makes your machine harder to tip, so you can approach turns at higher speeds.
Simple answer: lift kit is to make it sit higher (for looks) LT (long travel) is for performance, more travel in the suspension. More off road capable. Suspension has more travel to go over bumps and such at a faster speed and is more durable and strong to be able to handle the abuse of all of it, can even handle a bit of jumping.
Long Travel Suspension Fundamentals. A basic kit should include several critical components: Longer upper and lower control arms that push the wheels farther away from the vehicle's center line, up to 6 inches per side, allowing the wheels to vertically move farther. Longer coilover front shock absorbers with remote reservoirs that have ...
Mid-Travel vs. Long-Travel. A mid-travel kit is going to be more affordable than a long-travel alternative. You won't have the same articulation, but you'll have an affordable easy modification to improve your on and off road experience. Long-travel suspension systems offer unbeatable articulation, surprisingly soft landings, and excellent ...
0-3″ lift and long travel options available; Fully threaded shock body for easy preload adjustment; ... I think this lift kit checks all of the boxes I was looking for: quality, value, and adjustability. My only gripe about the MRA kit is that it was made for universal fitment. Thus, the reservoir hoses for the front shocks are excessively ...
I'd go long travel for serious offroading. The DB lifts are okay for offroad, but are more for looks and to be able to fit larger tires, whereas the LT kits are all about suspension performance. The increased articulation you get out of a LT setup and increased ground clearance will dominate any 6" lift.
Re: Lift kits: A-Arm vs. Long Travel Thanks! Ok, so next question: my understanding is that 1) the long travel and other suspension kits only address the front end and that 2) if I am going to put a heavy duty rear seat (the one that I have my eye on has a REAL fold down, diamond plate wall cargo bed) that I will need heavy duty rear springs ...
Long Travel vs Lift Kit. Hello everyone... I have owned a stock 2010 rzr 800 for a few years now. I have bassically rode the crap out of it. It was recently submerged in a swap almost to the top of the roll cage and the engine is drowned. With that being said it is now in the garage and being tore apart. I figured while i am here i may as well ...
3rd Gen 4Runner Long Travel Suspension. $2,849.00. Finish. Drivetrain. UCA Option. Quantity. Add to Cart. At 4.5" wider per side and 1" forward for extra firewall clearance, this kit allows up to 15" of useable wheel travel. Weak upper balljoints are replaced by 1" FK uniballs, and stock rubber bushings are replaced by durable ...
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Was wondering if you guys will be doing Mid-Travel or Long- Travel kits and what companies to. I'm waiting personally for my Radflo 2.5 coilovers to come in and equip it either with SVC's Mid travel kit which might be till the end of the year or Evil Mfg'a mid travel kit coming out soon around the summer.
In this video, we explore some of the unique suspension features that make the APG ProRunner suspension the best Ford Bronco Long Travel Lift Kit on the market.
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SVC Offroad's 2017+ Ford Raptor Gen 2 Mid Travel Kit offer your Ford Raptor the best performance possible with incredible amounts of wheel travel. The svcoffroad mid travel now comes with a billet upper control arm and works with both King or Fox racing shox. SVC features a 2.5 Coilover and 3.5 twin tube bypass shock.